Mostrar código-fonte de Discussão:What's Wrong With Christianity?

<noinclude>Comments on [[What's Wrong With Christianity?]]
<comments />
----- __NOEDITSECTION__</noinclude>

== Markvd said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
The problem with all religions is that it makes people feel a part of something which is good. I remember going to church and feeling great about seeing friends and such but the sermons although inspirational I found that people go and don't follow any of the rules they preach. Religion can subtly control aspects of the mind which can enslave the mind to agree with EVERYTHING each respective religion prophesizes. Once I heard a pastor approving war I knew this was a joke. This is a free will universe so no one should be binded by those that want to control and manipulate you. I took the good aspects I learned from church such as community but since then have left the Church and judge things on how I individually and uniquely see it. I say to those that are still in a tug of war in there minds about religion to ask themselves,  Could the church be wrong at times? People seem to see them as the definitive answer for all problems. I think compromise is the key and religion does not allow that until there is news to report by media outlets about there extracarricular activities. Is it possible that since Creation is within all of us we are all capable of coming up with a solution?
 --[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 00:16, 15 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Hawaiian said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
Christianity is bipolar dis functional reasoning, why? It contradicts itself, first in the Old Testament states that the one and only prophet (5th one) is Jmmanuel. Then in the New Testament (created by the Giza SOB's) claim the prophet is now Jesus Christ, born of the virgin Mary (cutting off Gabriel's spirit, now incarnated in Quetzal)

Like the other religions, it is based on false perverted transgressions DESIGNED to deceive and distort the facts in order to manipulate, extort and enslave others from realizing their true potentials, which is greater than any god or gods.

The realizations of awareness is with held by those religious criminals in order to remain in power at the expense of others because they are insane and will destroy anything that gets in their way, even solar systems. 

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 01:09, 15 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Markvd said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
Hawaiian
It's unfortunate entire solar systems were destroyed because if like they say in the contact reports ET's came and brought religion from Earth to there home planets, they were only able to see the exterior properties of religion all would seem well but not looking deeper into it's purpose because every group or ideal has a plan whether it's wicked or kind. They did not find out until it was too late and wars destroyed them all because everyone claiming to be followers of the "correct" relgion would easily get into battles about who is right and wrong. I wonder if most of these folks realize that no genuine being has come to help aid any of these groups with kind intent speaking of religions. The deceptive ET's who want to control the outcome of the free will universe as they see fit would rather see it destroyed than let man grow strength in there own mind and conscience. Some people need to have the universal remote "outcome changer" at all times.:)

--[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 05:59, 15 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Benjamin Stevens said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
The writer of this article wrote: "There is no other source that mentions Abraham and all the other forebears of the Hebrews. Even Moses is not a name - it is a suffix added to the names of the Egyptian gods, Ra and Tuth. There is no evidence that the Hebrews were ever, as a large community, slaves in Egypt..."

In doing so, he reveals his ignorance and closed-mindedness on the subject, for one such document which reveals that non-biblical records once existed, verifying the existence of Moses and of Israel's slavery in Egypt, is that of Tatian, who, in the second century of the Common Era, wrote the following in his Address to the Greeks.

"Chapter 38 - The Egyptians Place Moses in the Reign of Inachus.

Of the Egyptians also there are accurate chronicles. Ptolemy, not the king, but a priest of Mendes, is the interpreter of their affairs. This writer, narrating the acts of the kings, says that the departure of the Jews from Egypt to the places whither they went occurred in the time of king Amosis, under the leadership of Moses. He thus speaks: "Amosis lived in the time of king Inachus." After him, Apion the grammarian, a man most highly esteemed, in the fourth book of his Ægyptiaca (there are five books of his), besides many other things, says that Amosis destroyed Avaris in the time of the Argive Inachus, as the Mendesian Ptolemy wrote in his annals. But the time from Inachus to the taking of Troy occupies twenty generations."

This is only one quote from several ancient authors that shows that ancient, non-biblical evidence of the existence of Moses was once easily accessible. Another writer whom I know of, who records such evidence, is Julius Africanus. The above also attests to Israel's slavery in Egypt, for Ptolemy could not write of the "departure of the Jews from Egypt" if they were not once, as a whole, held there.

Too often, those who want to discredit the existence of people and places in the Bible are quick to ignore all tertiary evidence that stands against them and are unwilling to allow for the fact that many ancient records that once existed are now lost, which should only be expected after so much time. In this case, however, the Plejarens and the Talmud Jmmanuel also stand as sources, which support the existence of Abraham and Moses.


--[[User:Benjamin|βενιαμιν]] 16:14, 15 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Alive said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
Religion is opium used by oppressed people to forget their miseries for awhile. The point is how to stop or to weaken the oppression, not how to make people realize the negative effects of opium usage. They know exactly the effects of it. They decided to use it to ease their pains for awhile. Religion is a social pain-killer. It does not cure anything, but it can make people do not feel any pain, for awhile.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 19:08, 15 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Hawaiian said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
My advice regarding Christianity, Islam or other religions is to flush it completely from your minds, it is a poison, a cancer of your spiritual and consciousness evolution.

For Christianity, it is written in truth in the Talmud and available for reference if needed, but is unimportant once one realizes there are much more important avenues of awareness through Creational knowledge.

Unfortunately there is not a Talmud for Islam, just to be fair to the second biggest distorted religion on Earth.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:09, 15 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== JimmyJean said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
I'm disappointed you need to use Keith S Cornish to prove the flaws of Bible. Why don't you write the flaws of Bible from the teaching of Plieadians. Would it mean you are not sure the teaching from Plieadians and have to use outsider to prove the point?

--[[User:JimmyJean|JimmyJean]] 16:01, 16 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Hawaiian said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
JimmyJean,

Keith is delusional and you are too lazy to read the Talmud of Jmmanuel, transcribed directly from the Petale level by BEAM which explains completely the 5th prophet's message that is currently perverted in the bible. 

Keith's religious comments are typical of degenerates that support the oppression of others enslaved by religious dogmas in order to prevent others from true spiritual evolution. Which goes beyond the JHWH title that is prostituted as "god" or "gods" by power lustful material Beings and supported (unconsciously) by people like Keith and yourself.

Religions are for people who are too lazy to think for themselves and too stupid in believing some divine BEING will solve and save them. Here is a logical question that addresses this issue.

Would you prevent a fellow human from reaching a goal or position that is higher than yourself? And would you threaten your children with fear if they too want to better themselves, which may even exceed your current position or status?

Accordingly to Christianity, its a serious crime for one to reach the same level as (JHWH) god and any thoughts of becoming such is punished by death. (that's my interpretation, don't need stupid bible quotes)

Therefore, Christianity as well as other religions are unjust, greedy, insane, degenerate, power lustful, full of hate and designed to enslave and destroy. And stupid people believing in such non-sense supports this degenerative activity, it speaks about hell, well in actuality it creates hell for those believing in religions even those who don't. So one has no choice, tow the line or be destroyed...where is the Free Will? I certainly don't see much evidence and so should you.

I will not expend any more energy on this topic, for its a waste of time trying to explain logic to drunken, brain-washed religious degenerate stuck-on-stupid zombies who don't know any better than becoming a slave for some power lustful god or gods, pope, mullah or what ever title.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 19:20, 16 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== JimmyJean said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
Thanks Hawaiian. I have read the book but remember this book wasn't completed. I agree with Benjamin Stevens point of views. So please don't judge people with all your comments. My point for my previous comment that no need to post other source to prove the flaws of Christianity but rather using the teaching from Pleiadian to explain the flaws.

--[[User:JimmyJean|JimmyJean]] 20:09, 16 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Jamesm said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
JimmyJean I wanted to point out some obvious flaws with Christianity that the layman can understand. Anyone is welcome to write their own article and post it to this site as long as it is relevant.

--[[User:Jamesm|Jamesm]] 20:21, 16 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Hawaiian said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
The Pleijarens as well as myself have moved on delegating such religious dogmas in a lower priority status, because we have flushed such non sense out of our system in order to concentrate on higher more evolved avenues of Creational spiritual methods, which BEAM has endeavored.

Why do people still "require" more material references in order to "convince" themselves that the Truth lies WITHIN themselves and not on some written document or higher authority? All it takes is hard discipline, proper meditation and getting rid of one's Ego and religious dogmas, then and only then will one be receptive to higher learning and awareness.

It's this awareness that enables one to go beyond the material restrictions one places upon him/herself with "beliefs" that "lock in place" your true potentials, that is to become "one with Creation".



--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 21:30, 16 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Alive said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
It is nice to know pleiarens's opinions about christianity, and it is important to know ex-believers's opinions. Ex-believer like Markvd told us something which came from his experience, while pleiarens gave us their opinions which based on their observations. No pleiaren has ever been born and raised in a christian family, educated in a christian elementary school, brainwashed by christian comic books, christian movies, and christian bullshits, I assume. Knowledge came from many sources and through various ways and on different times.

--[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 21:54, 16 September 2010 (BST)
</div>
== Indi said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
Other than the topic, I was wondering what connection to the Billy Meier material does this article have?

--[[User:Indi|Indi]] 03:47, 7 May 2011 (BST)
</div>
== Hawaiian said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>

Actually the historic aspects of Christianity have a profoundly negative effect throughout humanity, even briefly on Billy himself (see second reference material). Jitschi, once a devoted Christian himself was completely changed on his religious views once they went back in time to meet Jmmanuel.


Unfortunately the majority of humans on Earth is still stagnated internally to know the truth about religious evils and would take at least 200-300 years (accordingly to Ptaah) to overcome. Mean while all the future lives during this period would go on being wasted and lead astray from the truth by parasites calling themselves “gods” or “sons/daughters” of heavens including the corrupt clergy of all religions not just Christians.


Those of you who have “flushed” this religious nonsense from your system should understand how difficult it still is for those still religiously engrained in their mindset to make the necessary changes without going insane or destroying the world.


Aset’s Explanation Part 4


From time to time I heard him talking to himself and issuing threats against those who, "still preach such nonsense today".

But the remainder gave him the truth about the life and work of Jmmanuel when Asket led us back to the year 32 in order to, there and then, examine those events which are described so wrongly and counter to reality in the New Testament of the Christian Bible

Jitschi went quite mad and ran amok, and he began to hate religion like the plague


He, who indeed had been a good believing Christian up to that point and had believed in the role of Christ as divine savior

http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Explanations_-_Part_4



Essence of the Notes- Asket takes Billy into Giza base

Asket then led Meier by the hand into the great pyramid. They walked through long, dimly lit passages until they reached a huge square stone that suddenly dissolved itself into nothing. They walked through the space that had previously been stone and then it reappeared. They silently crept past guards who took no notice of them. They descended very deep down steep stairs and then went through a passageway into the pyramid until they came to a huge, brightly lit hall. They could see a large, disk-shaped spaceship resting in the hall that was about 300meters in diameter. This was at least 300 to 400meters within and under the great pyramid of Gizeh. Asket then led Meier upwards to a small plateau to see a very old and heavy wooden cross. Beside this, laid three bloodstained and handcrafted, rusty nails. There was also a bloodstained wreath with abnormally great thorns, a purple colored coat, and a little leather bag from which precious stones had rolled out.


Meier believed these items to be the genuine crucifixion items of Jesus Christ and began to be religiously influenced. He wondered why Sfath had said that the Christian religion was an unscrupulous and wicked piece of work for stupefying and enslaving as all the other earthly religions. He also said that Jmmanuel should never have been called Jesus Christ, considered to be God’s son, and that God was not the Creation


http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Chapter_1_-_INTRODUCTION


--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 08:29, 7 May 2011 (BST)
</div>
== Hawaiian said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
Alive,

You have a good point and yes the Plejarens at time unfortunately take a bias point-of-view from their "sanitized" position, simply because they lack the necessary experience of going through what Earth humans have gone through, especially the negative consequences of religions.

That is why it is imperative for the Plejarens to continue corresponding with Earth humans when Billy passes on and NOT abandon us as was done in the past, there are still things they WILL discover amongst us because Nokodemjion did not choice to incarnate on Earth for reasons they currently think about now.

--[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 08:40, 7 May 2011 (BST)
</div>
== Spartan said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
I can tell you something. I am only 14 years old now, but I go to a Christian school. I have stopped believing when I was in 3rd grade. It gradually became clear to me. I have been pretty introverted regarding my personality. The spiritual teachings came to me even before I found out about the material when I was 12. I still have not told my family that i do not believe in anything. the people in my school have no idea what they are doing. Many are hypocrites. Some children pray to god and then say dirty language or insult one another.  

--[[User:Spartan|Spartan]] 02:55, 30 May 2011 (BST)
</div>
== Sheila said ... ==

<div class='commentBlock'>
Hi Spartan, you are a very smart 14 year old who has great logic to see through all the hypocrisy.  Many people go through their whole lives without ever coming to the truth.  Good for you and keep on striving, you will be a leader one day in teaching others what you know.

--[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 15:52, 31 May 2011 (BST)
</div>